# 25 Dr. Nasha Winters – The Metabolic Approach to Cancer

BACKGROUND

In September of last year, I met Alison Gannett and heard her amazing story of how she healed her body from Cancer. You can find that article HERE

Listening to her speak, and seeing her slides on the big screen, cemented the keto lifestyle in my heart. I want to be a healer, so I reached out to the doctor who was responsible for her successful treatment using the ketogenic diet.

INTRODUCING

Dr. Nasha Winters, ND, L.Ac., FABNO, is the founder, CEO, and visionary of Optimal Terrain Consulting. She is a nationally board certified naturopathic doctor, licensed acupuncturist, and a fellow of the American Board of Naturopathic Oncology. She lectures all over the world training physicians in the application of mistletoe therapy and consulting with researchers on projects involving immune modulation via mistletoe, hyperthermia, and the ketogenic diet. She lives in Durango, Colorado. Her new book which she coauthored with Jess Higgins Kelley is The Metabolic Approach to Cancer (Chelsea Green Publishing, 2017).

SHOW NOTES:

• Naturopathic Oncologist
• Licensed Acupuncturist
• In private practice for 16 years
• Teach and consults clients, doctors and researchers worldwide.
• Want to get the message out there that there is so much more we can do with regards to a cancering process

WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY?

• I was pretty much born under this planet with a lot of health issues.
• I was allergic to every type of formula – baby formula, terrible GI issues.
• I started having periods at 9. Today we see that a lot, which is not normal.
• Lots of illnesses, lots of issues of my reproductive system.
• By the time  I was 14, I had cervical dysplasia. At 16, cervical cancer, endometriosis, polycystic ovarian syndrome.
• I would bleed to the point of needing a transfusion, I would be bleeding constantly. I pretty much would not bleed for 2 to 3 days every month.
• By the time I was 19 years old, because of my life long digestion and hormonal issues, they knew something was wrong
• By the time they’ve figured out what was going on with me, I was at the end stage of ovarian cancer and organ failure.
• I had not been diagnosed until two weeks after my 20^th birthday but I had been terribly sick and in and out of the hospital.
• 2 weeks into October 1991, they finally got the proper the diagnosis.
• I could’ve chosen a few paths on the way I responded to that, and believe me, I was pissed.
• I tell people sometimes the story, that anger is what took me to the library. The day they told me that there is nothing that they can do.
• That’s when I picked up the book of healing and sat down and read that book on the floor of my little public library within two hours.
• That’s what pushed me towards so many things in my life.
• And I knew that the only way that I was going to survive is to do everything I could.
• And here we are almost 27 years later and I’m still like everyday like, “If I could just get one more week.”

WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DID YOU DO DIFFERENTLY TO HEAL YOUR BODY?

• One of the things that I did, when I was 16 I got very passionate about human rights, animal rights and all those things. And I became an overnight vegetarian.
• My grandma worked for the meat packing industry for 50 plus years and I saw the way animals were raised and treated. And I just said one day, “No more. I am not eating that crap.”
• But at 16, already being extremely malnourished with lots of microbiome issues,  I can look back and recognize how I came into this world.
• I became a junk food vegetarian. My idea of a good meal was a piece of wonder bread with miracle whip. I needed the tang with ballistic sweet pickles and velveeta cheese. I lived on that with ramen noodles for 4 years.
• The only vegetable I ate was canned cream corn.
• When I was diagnosed with cancer, the guy that I was dating at that time loved to cook and he started sneaking green and red things into my macaroni and cheese, which I was disturbed by.
• This man is now my husband and all these million of years later; he was trying to bring vegetables into my life and world.
• But both of us were hardcore vegetarian. So then I switched from those sandwiches to beans and rice, which of course was a step up in my nutrition, but it was still massive carbs.
• When I look back and I do a myfitnesspal, I was eating an average of 400 to 500 grams carbs a day.
• I thought I was doing it all right just like so many others.
• But it was never enough to sustain and take me to the next level
• I had to be a guinea pig for almost 15 years and make all the mistakes by myself. By the time I got out of school, and  got to practice on my patients,  we learned so much and I still learn everyday.
• My dietary change was incremental, each  I did something different; it was an improvement upon the last.
• The other things I had to do was a family fast. I had to cut off ties of with the toxicities in my life.
• Not something anybody wants to do, but it was what I had to do for survival. That was the hardest part of my journey.
• And then I had to start really going after my gut, because I was a once a month pooper.
• But it was “normal”, because it was my normal according to my doctors.
• Luckily, at that time, I found an incredible woman.
• She was an RN for years,  then went to acupuncture school, then went to my small town and set-up shop as an acupuncturist and a Chinese herbalist.
• I started working with her local herbalist training and was getting treated.  I also started working at a local health food store to feed myself, to learn how to eat and to learn how to be on the planet.

WHAT IS A TYPICAL DAY OF YOUR DIET CONSIST OF NOW?

• My body has become Keto adapted.
• I get no hunger. I could go week without eating.
• I feel so good because I have so many issues with food.
• On the days that I am on the highest amount of stress and mental focus, I get the clearest when I am in the state of pretty high ketone levels on fasting days.
• The rest of the time I’m doing just kind of a morning narrow window eating.
• My perfect day would be actually eat early and finish early.
• Lack of food is what works best for my body.
• You’ll be shock on how few people go whole 12-hour, through the night without food.
• Suddenly, after 2-3 days of water fasting, with lots of herbal teas and occasionally bone broth, I feel like I have a whole new system.
  Like I’ve step into a convertible.It’s really amazing.
• And it is wild to watch that transformation in my own psychology and physiology just by learning that perhaps being over fed and under nourished isn’t the way to go.
• If you keep on putting more stuff into the tank, it doesn’t focus on cellular recycling. So food just accumulates and that’s what happens to people who are doing the 3 and 3 – the three squares, three snacks and eating right away.
  You’re not giving your body the time it needs to sweeps out the garbage.

WHAT TYPES OF THINGS THAT IS HELPFUL FOR CANCER PREVENTION?

• See how far you can push your body from just anywhere from 12 to 16 hour fast everyday.
• Buy the cheap ketones strips.
  Check your urine first on waking after 12 hours of not eating.
• If there’s trace amount of ketones, that’s cool. You’re starting your body do on what’s meant to do.
  If there’s nothing, you have to push a little bit. So maybe it’s 13 hours or 14 hours.
• And once you start to see trace ketones to moderate ketones in that somewhere 12 to 16 hours phase, you know you’re starting to change things metabolically.
  That’s going to prevent all kinds of health care issues.
• The second is eating in the light hours only.
• Making sure you are getting enough sleep.
  The body needs to be asleep by 11:00 PM.
• Because roughly between 11:00 PM to 3:00AM is our liver goes to work.
• And today, the fastest growing cancers population, isa people under the age of 30 and it’s brain cancer.
• Our brains are still developing in our mind 20’s.
• And the protective layering of our skull to radiation is thin.
• Even some of the founders of Google and Apple and all those guys have really regretted what they brought to the world.
• Cellphones and sitting are today’s cigarettes.
• My eyesight was beyond perfect for years until I began the hundred percent virtual practices.
• Technology isn’t going to go away.

ALISON GANNETT

• When she started giving the body good quality fats, her chemistry changed.
• Cholesterol is the mother hormone.
• Fat cholesterol is what our hormones comes from
• So if you have poor hormonal balance, poor hormonal metabolism, frankly none of us are hormonal deficient but ultimately the problem is that we are not utilizing our hormones properly.
• Because we’ve been eating low fat for so long, avoiding cholesterol and all these things for the past 50 years that our poor selves are starving to death.
• So when you start to feed it with much needed fat, you change the cells, you change the membrane, you change the structure and you start to change hormonal response.
• I’ve done this long enough now for others and myself that within three cycles or three months, things will stabilize tremendously.
• We do not have to guess anymore. We have so many tests and technologies and if you don’t want to spend the money on the test, you just self experiment and that’s what I continue to do to myself for 27 years
• I still test. I like to learn. I like to figure things out for myself, because then I can figure out for others along the way.
• Three days of water fasting will change your micro biome pretty drastically, or 3 days of being hardcore vegan, or 3 days being hardcore meat eater – you’ll change it.
• For women, it can be a little slow. Because we do have a huge interplay with our estrogen.
• Most men are more estrogenized as well. A lot of men are starting to experience these kinds of things just simply because of the world we live in.
• In essence, people sometimes need a little bit of different approach.
• For women, they need to alter their macros a little bit or cycle it depending on their cycles.
• For instance, I could tell that it was hard for me staying Ketosis.
  They were there all the times that I would drop to a lower level of ketosis, when I’m on my period. And I would feel hungrier.
• And so what I would naturally do is I eat more protein.
  Typically not more carbohydrates.
• Now I think that’s part of what happens with a lot of people in these challenges.
• There’s so much mythology out there and the people create weird fear and anxiety around it.
• So, sometimes people think that it’s the diet that’s causing them problems, but it’s actually life.
• 99% of my folks who really struggle,  live in a perpetual state of fear, trauma and anxiety.

YOUR BOOK

• The audio will be out in the end of May
• It’s also currently in active translation in German, Polish and Korean.
• We also have people around sniffing for French and Hindi.
• The book came out last May
• My co-author Jess Higgins Kelly and I merged on this project because I’ve been doing this for a very long time.
• It has been well received in every single community
• I’m in a warm climate during the winter months
• My chemistry does not do me well in cold. It shuts me down.
• If I stay in acold climate it’s hard for my body, joints, etc.

WHAT ELSE DO OUR LISTENERS NEED TO UNDERSTAND

• If you’re still a menstruating woman and you find something on your breast, don’t rush off and biopsy it.
• Number one, take a breath.
• Number two; there are different ways to monitor what’s going on with you.
  One of them is a blood test called Videssa.
• For instance, if you’re a menstruating woman and you want to have that biopsy done or that lumpectomy or that Mastectomy done when your estrogen is at the lowest.
• These are the examples of people who would rush in a lot of fear.
• You did not wake up with cancer today. You woke up with it for the last 7 to 10 years, and it only got your attention today.

Relevant Links:

Book: The Metabolic Approach to Cancer: Integrating Deep Nutrition, the Ketogenic Diet, and Nontoxic Bio-Individualized Therapies

Business: Optimal Terrain Consulting

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